It is currently Wed May 22, 2013 4:24 pm
Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 8 posts ]
Author Message
 Post subject: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:10 pm 
AAG Co-Director
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 pm
Posts: 1234
Location: USA
Hey, geniuses!

We're looking for TO&Es for 1990s Belgium Paratroopers. We've searched all our usual places and cannot find the information. We need this by Wednesday so if you have it reply here! We'll come up with some little goodie as thanks!

_________________
Hang on, everybody - I wanna try something I saw in a cartoon once!
-Captain H.M. Murdock

Facebook: Ambush Alley Games LLC
Twitter: ambushalleygame
Google+: Ambush Alley Games


Top
OnlineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:44 pm 
Colonel
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:10 am
Posts: 3333
Location: Ireland
1990s?

I have 1980s.

You may need to be more specific that '90s' as they underwent several changes after emerging from the Cold War period.

Fonz is ex-Belgian Army so he may know.

_________________
http://www.guildwargamers.com


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:46 pm 
AAG Co-Director
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 pm
Posts: 1234
Location: USA
Mogadishu

_________________
Hang on, everybody - I wanna try something I saw in a cartoon once!
-Captain H.M. Murdock

Facebook: Ambush Alley Games LLC
Twitter: ambushalleygame
Google+: Ambush Alley Games


Top
OnlineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:48 pm 
Colonel
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:10 am
Posts: 3333
Location: Ireland
Ok... Just wanted to check it wasnt for Congo (97) or Rwanda...

The 1st Paratroopers battalion counts about 500 men, all volunteers and Para and Commando qualified. The Battalion is organised into four companies:

a staff company with:

the company staff
a signals platoon
a supply platoon
a maintenance platoon
a medical support section
a mortars platoon of the staff company, which has depending on its mission:
6 mortars 4,2 inch
6 mortars 81mm

3 infantry companies with:
a small staff
2 infantry platoons, a third platoon can be activated in war time, with:
2 infantry sections
1 Anti-Tank squad, equipped with two MILAN firing posts

_________________
http://www.guildwargamers.com


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:57 pm 
Colonel
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:10 am
Posts: 3333
Location: Ireland
Not spot on, though more for 2000's really.

This from here...

viewtopic.php?t=457

Quote:

Belgian Para Commandos are comparable to British or US paras or Royal Marine Commando's but not really to SAS or Delta because they do not do special forces missions.

Our 3 para commando batallions are indeed Belgium's Quick Reaction Force. There's always 1 Bn on standby.

We have Special Forces too, which are indeed all trained as Para Commandos before they join the Special Forces and those guys can be compared to SAS, Delta, Seals etc.

A Belgian Light infantry (or para commando) Squad comprises:

1 Squad leader w/FNC (Sgt or 1Sgt)
1 Sharpshooter (= not a sniper) with AW or scoped FNC
1 Unimog or Pandur Driver (light infantry) or AIV or soon Piranha (Stryker) Driver (Mechanised Infantry)
2 teams of 3 riflemen with 2 FNC and 1 Minimi (SAW) per team
A MAG 7.62mm MG can be attached to a Squad if the mission requires it, but it is not standard equipment for a light Inf Squad.

We will probably adopt the US system of 2 rifle teams of 4 men in the near future but it is not in effect yet.

A platoon has 3 rifle sections and 1 Heavy Weapons squad. This HW squad is armed with what we call the 3M's being a 50Cal MG, a MILAN AT missile launcher and a Mortar. These heavy weapons can be attached to the rifle squads if the mission requires it.

If and when Belgian combat troops will be deployed to Afghanistan nex year it will be the Para Commando's and Mechanised Infantry so if you want to use Belgians in your Afghanistan games, these are the guys you will need.

Fons
Senior NCO
Belgian Combat Engineers and currently serving as a basic skills instructor (kind'a like a drill sergeant)

_________________
http://www.guildwargamers.com


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:06 pm 
Recruit

Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:07 pm
Posts: 13
The AT squad can leave its Milans and operate as a third infantry section... I'm suspecting that's what they might have done in Somalia, if the company TO&E was the same.

Chris

Piers wrote:

SNIPPED

3 infantry companies with:
a small staff
2 infantry platoons, a third platoon can be activated in war time, with:
2 infantry sections
1 Anti-Tank squad, equipped with two MILAN firing posts


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:39 pm 
Colonel
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:10 am
Posts: 3333
Location: Ireland
Very likely.

Found a couple of Belgian Somalia vets online so have asked them... Not sure I will get a response though.

Also found some anecdotal evidence of some rather... 'aggresive' encounters between US personnel and Belgian Para-Comms.


I did find this thread on the Italians in the Mog... Some great pics!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... -Mogadisho

Quote:
Belgian operate in mission UNOSOM, but their vehicles haven't camo, it's all white with UN painted on.

Belgian unit in somalia and pics:

BN Parà (1° Para) di Diest, 11ª Comp.
13ª Comp. (francofona)
21ª Compagnia
3° Lancieri Paracadutisti (3° Para) Stockem, near Adon, ex-squadrone Recce.
14ª Compagnia para-codo Emblem, Anversa.
4° Cacciatori a cavallo
4° BN TTr di Wieden, Colonia, RFT.

tot. 837 uomini.

reinforce:
2° BN Para-commando (2° Codo) Flawine, Namur.
Battery para-commando, Braschaat

Image

_________________
http://www.guildwargamers.com


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: 1990s Belgium Paratroopers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:56 am 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:12 pm
Posts: 310
Location: falkirk in scotland
Peggy wrote:
Hey, geniuses!

We're looking for TO&Es for 1990s Belgium Paratroopers. We've searched all our usual places and cannot find the information. We need this by Wednesday so if you have it reply here! We'll come up with some little goodie as thanks!


peggy this is on the yahoo to&es group .

thomas

Belgian Para-Commando Company
CHQ: 2x 8 man squads
3xPlatoons: 36/40 men
HQ: 1 60mm mortar, 1 M-2 12.7mm MG
Weapons Squad: 1 Milan ATGM, 1 MAG, 7 FNC rifles
2 Squads: 1 MAG, 1 Minimi, 1 L-96A1 sniper rifle, 7 FNC rifles

_________________
owner of the yahoo group for WW1 ,WW2 and Modern TO&Es
(Tables of organisation & equipment or Unit of action )

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOandEs/

http://falkirkwargamesclub.org.uk/


Top
OfflineProfileSend private message
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 8 posts ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Code Black-Bird Style by FanFanLaTuFlippe contact: fanfanlatuflippe@live.fr